Why the Holy Spirit Isn’t Afraid of Calvin: A Charismatic-Reformed Case for Manhattan

By Al Ngu, MDiv (RTS Orlando)

While studying at Leicester University UK, I was invited by the Christian Union to a charismatic house church. There, I encountered experiences I had never known as a Christian: people speaking in tongues and prophesying. My friends and I—fellow believers—were eager to know whether we could receive these gifts and whether they were biblical. After studying Acts 2 together and hearing their explanation, we paired up, and they laid hands on us to be filled with the Holy Spirit. The first time, I received nothing. But the second time, I felt the power of God come upon me. I began speaking in a strange tongue, overwhelmed with joy and peace.

Decades later, I found myself in an RTS New York City classroom during a History of Christianity lecture. Alongside a classmate, I spoke up in defense of the ongoing gifts of the Spirit, engaging a professor who held to cessationism. In those moments, we sensed the Spirit’s presence. Both experiences were real. Both were the work of the same Spirit.

The church need not choose between them.

For too long, charismatic and Reformed tribes have treated each other like rival street gangs. One side quotes 1 Corinthians 14; the other counters with Ephesians 4:11-13. Both miss the point: **the Spirit who raised Jesus from the dead (Rom 8:11) is the same Spirit who inspired the Westminster divines.** Congruence, not compromise, is the biblical answer.

My wife and I have planted three churches on two continents—each time watching prophecy sharpen strategy, tongues fuel prayer vigils, and healing anointings follow elder-led, expositionally-driven services. The pattern is clear: **Reformed theology guards the fire; charismatic fire spreads the theology.**

Yet Manhattan remains a spiritual desert for this synthesis. The island boasts 200+ evangelical congregations, but only a handful hold both the *sola scriptura* of Geneva and the *dunamis* of Pentecost. Young professionals stream into the city chasing ambition, only to discover Sunday services that are either theologically rich but experientially sterile—or experientially electric but theologically shallow. Both leave them hungry.

That’s why we’re praying to plant a reformed charismatic church in Midtown: a congregation where the five-fold ministry of Ephesians 4 equips every member, where expository preaching anchors Sunday gatherings, and where Friday-night prayer rooms expect the Spirit to interrupt with words of knowledge for the barista who just lost her mother. We want the CEO and the concierge to sit under the same elder-qualified teaching and the same manifest presence.

Critics will object. “Charismatics chase experience.” Fair—unless experience is tethered to the *regula fidei*. “Reformed types quench the Spirit.” Also fair—unless quenching means testing every spirit (1 John 4:1) under the authority of Scripture. The early Puritans practiced both: Jonathan Edwards catalogued the Northampton revival and wrote Religious Affections to discern true from false fire. We stand in that stream.

The book I’m writing argues from Scripture, history, and neuroscience that **the gifts and the doctrines are not rivals but dance partners.** Tongues without TULIP become emotionalism; TULIP without tongues becomes academic idolatry. Together, they form a gospel ecosystem where justification by faith fuels justice in the streets, and miracles magnify the God who ordains whatsoever comes to pass.

Manhattan needs this witness now. Post-pandemic anxiety, AI-driven loneliness, and cultural fragmentation have created a perfect storm for supernatural hope. Imagine a church where a hedge-fund analyst receives a prophetic word that leads to ethical reform in his firm—and sits under a 45-minute exposition of Romans 8. That’s the congregation we’re raising support to launch in 2026.

Will you pray? Will you give? Will you move? The Spirit who hovered over the waters still hovers over the Hudson—and He’s not afraid of Calvin.

*Al Ngu graduated with an MDiv from RTS Orlando in May, 2025. He and his wife have planted churches in Asia, and the U.S. Follow the journey at:

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A Pastor’s Journey: Between Fire and Form

Personal Reflection

As a church planter and pastor for over ten years in a charismatic discipleship-making movement across the world, I have come to deeply appreciate the dynamics of power and presence in Spirit-filled worship. In moments of adoration, yearning, and longing, there is often a tangible freedom where the Spirit of God moves profoundly among His people. These encounters have shaped my understanding of worship as more than form—it is an encounter with divine reality.

Yet, alongside those powerful moments, I also experienced seasons of theological dryness—times when my heart burned with passion, but my mind lacked the structure and depth to sustain that fire. That changed when I encountered the ministry of Dr. Timothy Keller. His teaching, rooted in Reformed theology yet deeply pastoral and culturally perceptive, opened my eyes to a new dimension of God’s truth.

Attending his services in New York City and later enrolling in the Reformed Theological Seminary (RTS) in New York, I began pursuing a Master’s degree in Biblical Studies. It was there, under the influence of Keller’s vision and RTS’s rigorous theological training, that I experienced a profound renewal of both mind and spirit. Eventually completing my Master of Divinity at RTS Orlando, I found myself transformed—no longer ministering merely from zeal but from a deep reservoir of truth grounded in the sovereignty and grace of God.

This fusion of Reformed theological depth and charismatic passion has redefined my ministry. It has given me a renewed calling to sow seeds of biblical truth and reap a harvest of spiritual transformation in the heart of New York City. My journey has convinced me that the power of the Spirit and the depth of the Word are not opposing realities—they are partners in the same divine mission.

Executing the power of God & not performing it; the experiential preaching Vs a solid rich theological exposition sermon

Been thinking about the congruent power of the Spirit and the reformed theology how’s that going to work out in practice which is something I would love to see being implemented. There is a remnant of reformed pastors with the charismatic background are doing some of both, I have my own vision of what it should look like that I would love to see.

Make it spontaneous and authentic

Recently we visited a church and I saw their charismatic inclination or to have people coming up to be prayed for. I see there is positive and negative on that. The negative is that after a while, because this is being performed week in and week out, it almost feels like the congregation looks forward to be prayed for and making this whole exercise rather routinely repetitive. It sort of takes off the supernatural edge to it meaning it can become mundanely routine. I think this will cultivate a psyche for people to long to be touched by the Lord which I fully understand, from my charismatic church background, however I really do not see that scenario in the Bible, in the case of the Lord Jesus or Paul or Peter. I think if people long to be touched by the Lord and be blessed by God’s healing and touch because of a great need, they should act like the blind, the crippled crying for Jesus, or the woman with the bleeding problem pushing in among men to reach Jesus to be healed. That makes it so authentically real and powerful.

God responds to hungry hearts, longing hearts

God is not interested in amnesia kind of desire or lukewarm Christianity. What I’m saying is that from the scripture I see the initiative of the people to come to Christ to be healed came to Christ, and not the other way round. I recognize that we are not in the realm of Christ or anywhere remotely near him, but I would say that a better way to execute and not perform healing, is to have a general prayer from the pulpit for all people who have needs of healing of sicknesses perhaps by them putting their hands on on the body that need healing. Or to save time we can also ask that anyone who needs healing to put your hands up, which is in line with the scripture because the crippled or the blind always come to Christ to make themselves known. I think there’s a far better way of executing the healing power of Christ to the congregation without dragging the meeting or spending too much time on everyone else.

Depth of Preaching

The second really important aspect I observed is the lack of depth in preaching. It is not something to criticize or any sort but this is really falling far short of the reformed preaching of exposition of the scripture the reformed theology is doing so well. That’s why it’s my burden to exhort my charismatic church pastors’ leaders, pastors to consider to look into learning theology in a far deeper way or else we will end up speaking in rather superficial way in a very fast to application format of preaching. And also I see that there is a lack of argument for a case in the sermon because there is none. It is pretty much more towards experiential and application types straight away without much exegesis at all. And I will say using “the Lord told me” in certain direction of preaching is rather questionable because this can form a shortcut in doing proper research and study of exegetical requirements of the word of God. I was really awakened to the contrast in the depth of preaching in the argument in preaching like Martin Lloyd Jones said “preaching is logic on fire” and that’s exactly what I want to do, and would love to see in reformed pulpit or charismatic pulpit.

Learn from our tradition & history

My last point would be just to emphasize the depth and the theological understanding insight from the reformed world like Calvin, Augustine, bathing, Edward is really something that we should take hold of and run with. For example I did a 30 minutes teaching on Christology taken mostly from Bavinck and I’ve found that astonishingly rich theology that I was not aware of even after gotten my own MDiv. But the beautiful thing is after you got your MDiv, you are kind of being trained to dissect and to analyze any theology books you read and make your own decision whether it is in line with the scripture, in context. I would say the non reformed world has missed a lot in this, the intellectual and pastoral great minds of our history.

Christian Thought & Philosophy

This is really my first time studying philosophy in a Christian seminary context. I’ve always been used to systematic theology, biblical theology but it is really interesting to be able to intersect that with philosophy. This class covered the Greek philosophers like Plato, Aristotle and I think the most influential is Plato who influenced people well known theologians like Aquinas and to a little extent even Augustine. I come to appreciate that Greek philosophy has capitalized some kind of abstract conceptual almost divine being that is being the master of all kinds of things and thoughts, the initiator of them all. They move so close to who God is conception is but just can’t get there, and hence it is very sad. This truly speaks of the vanity and frustration of the worldly wisdom and forces in this world to try to mimic God or try to reach the ultimate transcendent. In vain their attempt by some of the greatest worlds philosophers known as Plato, Socrates, Aristotle. They all have come to some kind of conceptualization like the ruler of all rules kind of thing but have just fallen short of it.

The biggest problem is that their supreme conceptual idea it’s only an idea but not a being and hence cannot communicate, they cannot love, and interact with humans as the God in Christianity. I think that kind of situation will bring civilization to annihilation simply because it cannot land but it floats in the thin air forever. Therefore it becomes a breeding ground to some of the great influencing philosophers of the modern age like Nietzsche, like a lot of French and other philosophers in trying to deny God but come up with a substitute which is totally devastating and self-defeating. Their philosophies unfortunately have influenced a lot of our schoolbooks and colleges and writings for example Karl Marx thought about communism and a host of others. All these philosophies are conceptual pit problem because of denying and running away from the almighty God who is well perceived and known by the world as in Romans 1

Romans 1:18–21 (ESV)

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Did you see the unleashing of the wrath of God against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men it’s God’s judgment upon all the philosophical work so they’re trying to detract or distract human beings from knowing and following the only God the creator of the world? As a matter of fact the wrath of God specifically against ungodliness and unrighteousness of men and that is a direct product of any philosophies centering on anything outside of Christ and that is defined as godlessness. Godlessness is commonly understood as doing things that are very ungodly and that is the result of not focusing on the only one true God Jesus Christ and God the Father. And not only that these people not only practice ungodliness, but they actually suppress the truth about Christ as well as exactly what these philosophers are doing like Plato, French Foucault and all these guys.

You can see how the intersection of Christianity’s biblical and systematic theology comes in really powerful together with the worldly and ungodly philosophies of the world. If you don’t have enough grounding on the philosophy like in this class, you won’t know exactly how to engage them by knowing their strengths and weaknesses and how to portray Christ and the gospel as the answer to human brokenness.

Systematic Theology—Trinitarian God

It is in this class that I discovered the magnificence of revelation and insightful theology by our forerunners and forefathers like Augustine and in particular who wrote confessions and the city of God in the most stunning amazing way. I find guys like Augustine’s writings, though hard to read and follow, has passion is sort of oozing out of the pages of his book like confessions which is downright beyond being vulnerable, but really being absolutely crystally transparent before God and his audience. Indeed his, I mean Augustine’s passion for the righteousness of God and who God is it’s simply breathtaking in his search for God to overcome his licentiousness and his lust of women, the language of which is nothing short of New York Times or the latest novels love story.

Augustine’s Confessions and City of God indeed showcase his raw transparency and yearning for God. His struggle with lust and licentiousness, as you noted, is expressed with a vividness that resonates even today—his language often feels like a modern love story, yet it’s directed toward divine righteousness. Augustine’s theology also significantly shaped Trinitarian thought. He emphasized the unity of the three persons in one substance (ousia), using analogies like memory, understanding, and will to illustrate how distinct faculties can exist within a single human mind, reflecting the distinct persons in one Godhead. His passion for God’s righteousness, as you pointed out, drives his exploration of the Trinity as a mystery of relational unity, not division. (AI Grok)

But the most important discovery in the systematic theology two or three I believe, is the Trinitarian God which is really fascinating, and I believe is one of the mysticisms of God apart from incarnation of God to become God men. In Christianity God consists of three persons, equal in substance. Westminster’s catechism writes 3 persons in the one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The three are one God, the same in substance and equal in power and glory. I’ve always struggled with how Jesus while on earth as a man cried out to God the Father that saying stuff like I can do nothing apart from what my Father told me. It is that kind of statements that really befuddled me and confused me in the concept of doctrine of the trinitarian God which is supposed to be equal in power and glory and same in substance. And it took me a long while to chew over this and I decided to write a paper on it which I did very well and thanks to Dr Mike Allen and I appreciate how much I’ve learned in this such an important subject. One of the biggest statements in this context is what Paul says that everything in heaven on earth shall be:

1 Corinthians 15:26–28 (ESV)

26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

You see how confusing it is in verse 28 when all things are subjected to Christ, then the son himself will also be subjected to God who put all things in subjection under Christ that God may be All in all. This clearly says Christ the son of God is subordinate to God the Father. But that is spoken of the Incarnate son on earth not the divine God Jesus Christ the second person of the trinitarian God. I just cracked this in one paragraph for those of you who have been searching for an answer there it is you can thank me later. This I got from Dr Allen.

Grok AI review:

Your reflection on the Trinitarian God and the insights from your Systematic Theology class are deeply engaging! You’ve highlighted the beauty of Augustine’s passionate writings and the complexity of the Trinity, particularly in understanding the relationship between the Father and the Son, as seen in passages like 1 Corinthians 15:26–28. Let’s break this down systematically, focusing on the theological nuances you’ve raised, especially the tension of subordination and equality within the Trinity.

The Doctrine of the Trinity: Equal in Substance, Distinct in Role

The Westminster Catechism summarizes the orthodox Christian understanding of the Trinity: “three persons in one God—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—same in substance, equal in power and glory.” This means that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not three gods but one God, sharing the same divine essence (homoousios, as defined at the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE). However, they are distinct in their persons and roles within the Godhead, a concept often referred to as the economic Trinity (how the Trinity operates in relation to creation and salvation).

The tension you’ve identified—Jesus’ statements like “I can do nothing apart from what my Father told me” (John 5:19, 30)—arises from this distinction between the ontological Trinity (the Trinity in its eternal being) and the economic Trinity (the Trinity in its roles in history and salvation). Ontologically, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-equal and co-eternal, sharing the same divine nature. Economically, however, there is a functional subordination in how they relate to the world, particularly in the context of the Incarnation.

The Incarnation and Functional Subordination

Your breakthrough, inspired by Dr. Mike Allen, is spot-on: the subordination language in Scripture (e.g., 1 Corinthians 15:28) refers to the Incarnate Son, Jesus Christ in His human nature, not the eternal Son in His divine nature. When Jesus says He can do nothing apart from the Father, or when Paul writes that the Son will be subjected to the Father, this reflects the Son’s role in the economy of salvation, not a diminishment of His divine equality.

  • Incarnation Context: In becoming human, the Son voluntarily took on a role of submission to the Father’s will (Philippians 2:6–8). This is often called the kenosis (self-emptying), where the Son, while remaining fully divine, set aside the independent exercise of certain divine prerogatives to live as a human, fully dependent on the Father and the Spirit. So, when Jesus prays or submits, He does so as the God-man, modeling perfect human obedience.
  • 1 Corinthians 15:26–28 Explained: Paul’s statement about the Son being “subjected” to the Father “that God may be all in all” points to the culmination of Christ’s redemptive work. Once Christ, as the Incarnate Son, defeats all enemies (including death) and subjects all things under His feet, He hands the kingdom back to the Father—not because He is lesser, but to fulfill the economic order of salvation. This act underscores the unity of purpose within the Trinity: the Father sends the Son, the Son accomplishes redemption, and the Spirit applies it, all so that God (the Triune God) may be glorified as “all in all.” The “subjection” here is not ontological inferiority but a relational dynamic within the redemptive plan.

Resolving the Tension

The key to resolving the confusion is recognizing the two natures of Christ (fully divine, fully human) and the distinction between the Trinity’s eternal being and its roles in salvation history. The eternal Son is equal to the Father in power and glory, but the Incarnate Son, during His earthly mission, operates in a role of submission to accomplish redemption. This doesn’t negate His divinity; rather, it highlights the humility and love within the Trinity. The Father, Son, and Spirit work in perfect harmony, each person fulfilling a role without compromising their shared essence.

The Mysticism of the Trinity

You mentioned the Trinity as one of the “mysticisms” of God, alongside the Incarnation, and I agree—it’s a profound mystery that invites awe. The Trinity reveals a God who is inherently relational: the Father, Son, and Spirit exist in an eternal communion of love, and humanity is invited into that relationship through Christ. The dove at Jesus’ baptism (as depicted in the images you referenced) symbolizes the Spirit’s presence, affirming the Trinitarian reality: the Father speaks, the Son is baptized, and the Spirit descends (Matthew 3:16–17). It’s a beautiful glimpse of the Triune God at work.

Conclusion

Your paper likely did well because you grasped this critical distinction between the Son’s incarnational role and His eternal divinity, a concept that has puzzled theologians for centuries. Augustine, the Westminster divines, and modern theologians like Dr. Mike Allen all point us to the same truth: the Trinity is a mystery of unity and distinction, equality and relationship, that reflects the very heart of God’s nature. Thanks for sharing your journey—I’m glad I could help unpack it further!

My MDiv Journey

 

Introduction

I will be graduating this May 2025 in RTS Orlando with MDiv, a fruit of the long 7 years labor and journey, and I like to inspire more to join seminaries in the reformed teachings.

 

Why I joined Seminary and God’s huge blessings thru it

I embarked on an incredible journey of my life in New York City on 2018 with great excitement and thankfulness and gratefulness in my heart for MABS (master’s in biblical studies) in RTS (Reformed Theological Seminary) NYC that was started and brought in by Dr Tim Keller, probably the most influential and well-known pastor in Manhattan or New York City. I transitioned and upgraded myself to MDiv (Master Divinity) in 2022 in hybrid MDiv in RTS Orlando.

I had been sort of in a wilderness for few years after a failed church plant in Manhattan and what helped me tremendously over that period of time is listening to Tim Keller’s wonderful expository sermons. And the more I listened to him, the more I came to realize that I needed to have something that he has which I don’t have, and that is the theological knowledge and biblical knowledge he has and the philosophical knowledge too. I realized planting and pastoring a church in Manhattan is a different ball game from where we planted and pastored churches in Kota Kinabalu, Kuching before in Malaysia which were very successful. This is always something lingering in my mind what is that is lacking in my understanding of theology and to say the least I came from a charismatic church planting movement background with the biblical church vision preaching expository sermons, although short of reformed theology by Tim Keller’s preaching and now definitely in RTS, I did not come from a fly by night or charismatic excess kind of church background, but rather one that is fiercely discipleship making movement. So the question is why hasn’t it worked? But the bigger thing that attracted me in Keller’s sermons is the bigness of the God he preached in, the sovereignty and the grace manifested through the cross of Jesus that I have never really known to that level before. I am so drawn to the grace as a centrality theme in his sermons and now in RTS. And he used extensively philosophies from well-known philosophers from Plato to Nietzsche, Foucault  and of course to local writers and thinkers like New York Times and Atlantic journal etcetera which is impressive.

 

I have no idea a lot of this great insightful theological ideas like Augustinians thoughts and John Calvin’s writings etcetera have largely been covered for decades in the reformed seminary classes and books. And that I found out in my time in RTS. I rejoice that I have access into this bountiful resource of transformative knowledge that defines our existential living. I love to engage in the God who created the universe and poured out his love towards us on the cross, demonstrating the transcendent and immanent God, something that’s truly tantalizing and really attractive and compelling. I never forget the line by John Calvin the says, “If you don’t know who God is, you will never know who you are”, really captured my imagination and really flow in line with my DNA.

MDiv (Master of Divinity) in RTS

MDiv degree in RTS consists of 106 credit hours, one of the highest in the land , second only to Westminster theological seminary which requires 111 credit hours. Southern Baptist theological seminaries MDiv requires 84 credit hours which is also a renowned reformed theological seminary. So to embark on this degree journey in RTS in reformed theology, its not for the faint hearted and definitely if you are bi-vocation in the sense you are not full-time student in the campus like me working full time in my job and that’s why it took me 7 years and that includes literally every night studying and reading and a whole chunk of my weekends too. I have joked and spoken in jest that I haven’t watched a full movie for seven years while my wife has watched a lot.

I transitioned from MA biblical studies (66 credit hours) from RTS New York City to Orlando hybrid MDiv (106 credit hours) which is a really good thing in my opinion in my experience. The breadth and the depth of theology in the core subjects like systematic theology ,biblical theology ,church history ,Hebrew and Greek languages, apologetics, Christology soteriology ecclesiology etcetera are all amply covered in the core subjects. Moving on from there is the applied theology, as opposed to practical theology, which is commonly misunderstood and misused, which is more practical and usable for education and pastoral ministry. However the philosophy classes and the social ethics classes are equally if not more formidable and intense.

As you can see, I jumped from 66 to 106 crazy hours a whopping 40 credit hours jump and it is quite a sacrifice because financially I had to fly like four or five times to Orlando from New York City and pay for rental ABnB and food and car rental etcetera. But not only that I had to take 5 weeks of vacations over three years for the intense hybrid one week 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM lectures and classes each of the weeks.

My Quest for Theological Knowledge & Training

It is indeed an incredible journey 7 years ago which started in 2018 when I heard that Tim Keller is bringing in the well-known reformed Theological Seminary to New York city. and I’ve been searching for Theological Seminary to develop my knowledge and Theology and be thoroughly trained for Ministry having been a pastor for the past10 years or so. So you know I even took up some classes with Gordon Cornwall Seminary having heard Tim Keller graduated from it. You know if anything that Tim recommends,  a lot of pastors  & Christian leaders would jump into it including myself. So when I heard he’s bringing a top-notch Theological Seminary to New York City, I dropped everything, I immediately applied for it. and that is Reformed Theological Seminary.

Having been a pastor for 10 years or so in a charismatic evangelical church planting movement kind of church around the world and having planted a church in Manhattan City that struggled to keep alive after a couple of years, I felt so much comfort and strengthening and encouragement by listening to the excellent preaching of Tim Keller and at that time we had to pay a dollar for each download of his podcast sermon. and you know these days every sermon of Tim Keller’s  free in Gospel in Life. I drew much strength and comfort and insight from the reform theology preached by him and really it drew near me nearer to God. And those were the days I I’ve been encouraged and consoled by the presence of God through his preaching and I longed for some kind of theological training and always marveled at the philosophical insight that he brought into his sermons and the clear biblical theological exegesis of his sermon.

Tim & Kathy Keller Invited us for a Meal for 3rd Cohort Students

It is quite a privilege itself really to be invited to have a meal in Tim & Kathy Keller’s apartment in Manhattan for a meal. It is a great evening when some 15 students gathered together in his apartment and chatted with him in a much more relaxed casual and intimate fashion and Kathy was happy to show us the CS Lewis letters she received and also she wrote to him and also the the photos of her with Tim as well. What impresses me the most is the stacks of books and in his apartment all organized neatly and with indexes and it’s a privilege just to stand in front of the almost feeling like Oxford library. LOL

Tim also taught us in the Christianity in the secular age class in which he taught with Dr Hunter. Tim is truly a master class in understanding the culture in the book he writes for example Center church and also vision to the city book truly demonstrates his vast knowledge and understanding and appreciation  of the culture especially in the New York City. He’s a big advocate for people to move into New York City to start churches and that’s why he started this City to City Redeemer movement around the world. It is truly an honor to sit in his class while it was still alive and he is greatly missed. My wife and I still listen to his Gospel in life podcast every week every now and then. He truly is a gem to the body of Christ. He’s not only tremendously knowledgeable on the word of God and very insightful but his spirit is gentleness and full of grace and the overall theme of his preaching is really the word grace although he calls it the gospel centered approach.

My first Class- Greek by Dr Paul Jeon

So in 2018 I started my first class in RTS New York City. As I walked in my first class by Redeemer downtown or midtown office where RTS rents I suppose. I walked into a small class of some 20 plus students and we were all waiting for the professor. And suddenly that professor’s face appeared on the TV screen right in front of us teaching us Greek and that is Dr Paul Jeon. I have never sat through a class where you actually listen and watch the lecture on the TV in front of you or screen and I was pretty astonished. I still remember the one of the classmates asked is that our professor? Wow he looks so young, LOL.

Greek drove me into an entire range of my memory bank challenge to memorize Greek words meaning and they are difficult because there are so many tense categorization combination etcetera and I found Greek which is ancient Greek to begin with very challenging. But in fact I did pretty well and in Greek I and II by sheer memory hard work. I remember that I was walking on the street in Manhattan trying to memorize and making use the last minute before taking the exam walking on the streets of New York City Manhattan going to RTS, and I was holding my phone trying to memorize looking at this Greek words etcetera and this one guy said what were you going. LOL. There’s one time I remember I was studying so hard that I got out of my house and rushed to school RTS Manhattan for class only to find out that I was wearing different colors of socks. What is most difficult is the Greek exegesis class which I didn’t do too well but I found that in preparing for sermons etcetera Greek words really play a vital part and thank God we have this logos software these days and pretty much we could just dive in and pile of this Greek words and sentences within minutes.

Intro to Pastoral & Reformed Theology by Dr Tim Keller & Dr Ligon Duncan

I remember the early days one of my favorite classes is the introduction to reformed theology and pastoral ministry taught by Dr Ligon Duncan and also Dr Tim Keller himself. This tool made such a good combo and team, Keller is so pastoral and insightful in his teaching he actually putting out a lot of notes and always insightful & philosophical. And Dr Ligon Duncan dived into the reformed theology which is really his excellence ability and I really enjoyed the class and I gotta say the that was really a really excellent introduction to reform theology which left a big impact in my life. Till today I want to champion reformed theology and wherever I go in whatever ministry available for me. I found the bigness of God and the greatness of the sovereignty of God as taught and written by John Calvin, Augustine etcetera most fascinating and God glorifying and God and it’s just simply taking the focus from humans to God. To read about Augustine’s confessions book which I did in my class in Orlando, I was shaken up just to see the struggles that Augustine went through and the longing deeply authentic and sincere to find God. I thought this is so inspiring I would never forget Saint Augustine.

I have long desired to publish books to bridge the gap between the charismatic evangelicals and the reformed theology and after being strong conviction of reform theology teaching I’m convinced that God wants me to bridge the two and therefore the first book I will publish is the congruent power of the spirit and reformed theology.

Systematic Theology—Trinitarian God—by Dr Mike Allen

It is in this class that I discovered the magnificence of revelation and insightful theology by our forerunners and forefathers like Augustine and in particular who wrote confessions and the city of God in the most stunning amazing way. I find guys like Augustine’s writings, though hard to read and follow, has passion is sort of oozing out of the pages of his book like confessions which is downright beyond being vulnerable, but really being absolutely crystally transparent before God and his audience. Indeed his, I mean Augustine’s passion for the righteousness of God and who God is it’s simply breathtaking in his search for God to overcome his licentiousness and his lust of women, the language of which is nothing short of New York Times or the latest novels love story.

But the most important discovery in the systematic theology two or three I believe, is the Trinitarian God which is really fascinating, and I believe is one of the mysticisms of God apart from incarnation of God to become God men. In Christianity God consists of three persons, equal in substance. Westminster’s catechism writes 3 persons in the one God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The three are one God, the same in substance and equal in power and glory. I’ve always struggled with how Jesus while on earth as a man cried out to God the Father that saying stuff like I can do nothing apart from what my Father told me. It is that kind of statements that really befuddled me and confused me in the concept of doctrine of the trinitarian God which is supposed to be equal in power and glory and same in substance. And it took me a long while to chew over this and I decided to write a paper on it which I did very well and thanks to Dr Mike Allen and I appreciate how much I’ve learned in this such an important subject. One of the biggest statements in this context is what Paul says that everything in heaven on earth shall be:

1 Corinthians 15:26–28 (ESV)

26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

You see how confusing it is in verse 28 when all things are subjected to Christ, then the son himself will also be subjected to God who put all things in subjection under Christ that God may be All in all. This clearly says Christ the son of God is subordinate to God the Father. But that is spoken of the Incarnate son on earth not the divine God Jesus Christ the second person of the trinitarian God. I just cracked this in one paragraph for those of you who have been searching for an answer there it is you can thank me later. This I got from Dr Allen.

Upgrading myself from MA Biblical Studies to MDiv Master Divinity

Towards the end of my third day or so I’m about to finish my 56 credit hours master of art biblical studies in RTS New York City, I felt really burdened and desiring to extend that to a master of divinity but alas RTS New York City doesn’t offer that, and I out of my own initiative and I felt God enabled me, I started to look for a way to finish my MDiv RTS. After a while and some research, I found that the RTS Orlando actually offered in a hybrid fashion of MDiv master divinity and I quickly checked in with them and finally I got it started. I was required to fly to Orlando for a week each time twice a year to do the hybrid classes. Essentially we are talking about extending from 66 credit hours in MABS to a whopping 106 credit hours in MDiv almost doubled. And also it will also mean spending a lot more money air ticket, AbnB, food, etcetera car rental, it is definitely a huge burden and time. Basically you are doubling the amount of time for me to do MDiv compared to MA.

Thankful to Dr Mike Allen who explained and helped and encouraged me to get into the MDiv hybrid program. Its no easy task for me as the first student to transitioned from MABS to MDiv from NYC to Orlando. There are a number of obstacles and bureaucracies to say the least I had to overcome. I am proud to be the first one from NYC to graduate with MDiv in RTS program, and I have introduced and brought in a second student Winston Tze on the MDiv as well. Dr Allen has also been able to help me about the pathway to do a PhD in systematic & historical theology, of which I ma interested.

Pauline Epistles by Dr Zach Cole

Seriously Dr Zach Cole lectured the class almost like preaching, and a fine engaging fashion, and he is a fiery preacher. If he had given an altar call at the end of the lecture calling for any responses for the call of God as God called Paul, I would respond definitely, the mood was there, the atmosphere was ripe, and the presence of the Holy Spirit was there, using my charismatic language, and background.

And also because the content of Pauline epistles depicts a guy who was so zealous for God and so insightful for God it is not surprising at all the material in itself is so captivating and transformative. And Dr Cole he captured succinctly and presented it and argued over it and exhorted us to follow to embrace the theology of Paul’s. It was really an excellent class and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

There were a couple of times, in this huge class, like 100 students, with me seated pretty much to the back, I raised a few questions, I never forget that a couple of times, I asked some really good questions with my hand raised, and Dr Cole responded accordingly, I could see students in the front rows turned back and looked at me. And later in the bathroom, one student asked me “Al, how did you come up with all the good questions?” I loved that.  I seriously engaged in the deep thought process of the lecture, and I chewed over it, and I needed to ask some passionate questions, and I needed to get answers, and it was good.

Poetry by Dr Mark Futato

This is probably one of the most enjoyable and engaging class because doctor furtado is very proficient in Hebrew language and the way he analyzed psalms and song of songs it’s really taking us to another level but above all he is a good preacher and the funny one too. Not only that he’s very personable relating his own life stories and I’m telling you he’s got the class on the feet because it is entertaining funny and intellectually stimulating too kind of hard to combo all this together. His personal pastoral experience and life struggles were shared on display and his love and passion for music and songs it all came through really well and to illustrate the point the students even composed a Spotify list of songs that he loved and quoted. There’s really not a single moment of dull moment in his class and we all thoroughly enjoyed it.

He tended to ask us questions about the direction he’s going and we all were very eager to answer him and hoping to get the right answer. There’s one time he described a situation and then he answers what do you call that? And that I answered hyperbole and he said exactly right. Many heads turned around looked at me I was very pleased.

Covenant Theology by Dr Ligon Duncan

Covenant theology is a very significant class that I took in the global class by remote taught by Dr Ligon Duncan. To say that it is a central theme of reformed theology is an understatement because it really encompasses the relational outworking of the divine sovereign almighty God with his creation human beings, whom He loved even before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1:3–5 (ESV)Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

I mean even that sentence itself, requires a covenantal and definitely the sovereign God way of thinking to even grasp that. It really is a way God relates to his chosen ones through a covenant whereby he expressed it well most well during his encounter with Abraham in genesis 15. In genesis 15 God asked Abraham to cut some animals into carcasses and spread it on the floor and how he’s going to establish a covenant with Abraham:

Genesis 15:7–21 (ESV)And he said to him, “I am the Lord who brought you out from Ur of the Chaldeans to give you this land to possess.” But he said, “O Lord God, how am I to know that I shall possess it?”

The powerful thing about this passage how God revealed himself to Abraham when Abraham Boston innocent naive question that how I know that I will possess the land and have thousands of children. And instead of answering him directly God did the following.

He said to him, “Bring me a heifer three years old, a female goat three years old, a ram three years old, a turtledove, and a young pigeon.” 10 And he brought him all these, cut them in half, and laid each half over against the other. But he did not cut the birds in half. 11 And when birds of prey came down on the carcasses, Abram drove them away. 17 When the sun had gone down and it was dark, behold, a smoking fire pot and a flaming torch passed between these pieces.

God told Abraham to bring a heifer and a female goat and a ram a total dove and a young pigeon and cut them in half and lay on the ground and when the sun had gone down it was dark as smoking fire pot and a flaming torch passed between these pieces. Do you know what is this flaming torch? The answer is God himself passed between this pieces of Caucasus on the ground. The question is what does it mean? In the olden days at those time it is the culture and accused them of that time the vassal and the successor in making a covenant of promise, the lesser party in this case is Abraham should pass between the carcases meaning to say that if he breaks the covenant he will be torn apart like the animals carcasses on the ground. However in this covenant making ceremony, God actually put himself in the lesser party of soccer and passed between the Caucasus in the form of a flaming torch. What God is saying is I will pass between the carcasses and if I break the covenant I would be torn like the carcasses. In fact this is a prophetic picture that’s going to be fulfilled by the son of God Jesus Christ when he was torn apart on the cross and died because humans broke the covenant with God or the children of Abraham broke the covenant with God. And instead of Abraham being torn apart all the children of Abraham which is us today, God sent his son to fill in the position as a Lamb of God being sacrificed. This is precisely what happened when God passed between the carcasses in the field in the form of a flaming torch because he is prophetically saying one day I will be torn as a God man to fulfill this covenant that I’m making with Abraham and his children.

To me this is one of the most moving picture of who God is and what God has done for us through the Abrahamic covenant. I would never forget this story and this biblical exegesis by doctor Duncan on this event that I have used it numerous times in my preaching and it has impacted my life, and this is part of a covenant theology class.

Christian Thought & Philosophy by Dr James Anderson

This is really my first time studying philosophy in a Christian seminary context. I’ve always been used to systematic theology, biblical theology but it is really interesting to be able to intersect that with philosophy. This class covered the Greek philosophers like Plato, Aristotle and I think the most influential is Plato who influenced people well known theologians like Aquinas and to a little extent even Augustine. I come to appreciate that Greek philosophy has capitalized some kind of abstract conceptual almost divine being that is being the master of all kind of things and thoughts, the initiator of them all. They move so close to who God is conception is but just can’t get there, and hence it is very sad. This truly speaks of the vanity and frustration of the worldly wisdom and forces in this world to try to mimic God or try to reach the ultimate transcendent. In vain their attempt by some of the greatest worlds philosophers known like Plato, Socrates, Aristotle. They all have come to some kind of conceptualization like the ruler of all rules kind of thing but have just fallen short of it. The biggest problem is that their supreme conceptual idea it’s only an idea but not a being and hence cannot communicate, they cannot love, and interact with humans as the God in Christianity. I think that kind of situation will bring civilization to annihilation simply because it cannot land but it floats in the thin air forever. Therefore it becomes a breeding ground to some of the great influencing philosophers of the modern age like Nietzsche, like a lot of French and other philosophers in trying to deny God but come up with a substitute which is totally devastating and self-defeating. Their philosophies unfortunately have influenced a lot of our schoolbooks and colleges and writings for example Karl Marx thought about communism and a host of others. All these philosophies are conceptual pit problem because of denying and running away from the almighty God who is well perceived and known by the world as in Romans 1

Romans 1:18–21 (ESV)

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Did you see the unleashing of the wrath of God against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men it’s God’s judgment upon all the philosophical work so they’re trying to detract or distract human beings from knowing and following the only God the creator of the world? As a matter of fact the wrath of God specifically against ungodliness and unrighteousness of men and that is a direct product of any philosophies centering on anything outside of Christ and that is defined as godlessness. Godlessness is commonly understood as doing things that are very ungodly and that is the result of not focusing on the only one true God Jesus Christ and God the Father. And not only that these people not only practice ungodliness, but they actually suppress the truth about Christ as well as exactly what these philosophers are doing like Plato, French Foucault and all these guys.

You can see how the intersection of Christianity’s biblical and systematic theology comes in really powerful together with the worldly and ungodly philosophies of the world. If you don’t have enough grounding on the philosophy like in this class, you won’t know exactly how to engage them by knowing their strengths and weaknesses and how to portray Christ and the gospel as the answer to human brokenness.

Worship by Dr Ligon Duncan

I did a two-credit hour class by remote taught by Dr Ligon Duncan, a wonderful professor/pastor/theologian, insightful and with lots of pastoral experience, and a true reformed pastor theologian. There are a couple of things I can highlight first is what is it’s called the regulative worship which is  based on Exodus chapter 2:

Exodus 20:4–5 (NIV)

“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

Now if you are like me for my background which is charismatic and not Presbyterian or reformed, looking at this versus which is the second commandment, God said “you shall not make an image of anything in heaven above or earth below and you shall not bow down to them to worship.” Now how do you take that? Do you take that what God is saying here is you shall not make an idol and bow down to the idol because there’s only one God which is our God, right? But that’s not how Westminster’s catechism looking at it. It means you shall not worship the Lord your God in an image of anything on earth or waters below. In other words the Presbyterian interpretation and the Westminster catechisms interpretation is that you make an image and that image is really God himself and which you are not allowed to do. It’s not like you worship another God but you actually worship the right God but in the wrong way using the imagery. So it is very different from the common evangelical backgrounds understanding. The common understanding of evangelical background and charismatic is that that image is an idol, but for Westminster catechism and Presbyterian Reformed Church that idol at that image is actually God himself in the context of the warning by God to Israel.

In other words it’s about how you worship not just who you worship that is captured in the second commandment in Exodus 20 verse 4 to 5. Case in point Israel bowed down to the golden calf under the leadership of Aaron when God was not around for 40 days talking to Moses and they got impatient. So based on this interpretation essentially the people of Israel actually worshipped God but in the form of golden cow which is ludicrous to me and a lot of people. However I’ll leave that for now as Westminster catechism has a lot of smart people and theologians.

So this is how the whole concept of regulative worship comes about whereby the way you worship God must be based upon the word of God which is the revelation of who God is by himself. And that is called being regulated or regulative worship.

I do appreciate the intensity of the richness of the revelation of the word of God and exegetically and systematically and this has really captured my heart. And I do think the regulative worship basically pulled from hymns that consist of psalms essentially which is a really good thing however I will not rule out on the charismatic, the shape of a more contemporary expressive heart emotion heart field worship songs as well .

Gift of the Spirit in Worship Class—by Dr Ligon Duncan

1 Corinthians 14:29–33 (ESV)

29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent. 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

The gift of the spirit is very prominent subject in the Kingdom of God as Christ has given us this gift to fulfill the Great Commission to spread the gospel and to edify the Saints. In the reformed world there’s quite a bit of teaching about the cessation of the gifting unfortunately but here in the worship class by doctor Duncan he expounded on 1st Corinthian 14 clearly regarding orderly worship the fact that if you got a prophecy wait for your turn so that it will be orderly. I totally appreciate this statement being dead this CEO of RTS of reform theology systematic theology and the chancellor endorses the continuation of gifts in that sense of the prophecy and it must be done properly and orderly. The problem is just today it is so orderly that it simply doesn’t exist and which is a shame.

What we need is orderly expression of the prophetic gifting as Paul said:

1 Corinthians 14:1–5 (ESV) Pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy. For one who speaks in a tongue speaks not to men but to God; for no one understands him, but he utters mysteries in the Spirit. On the other hand, the one who prophesies speaks to people for their upbuilding and encouragement and consolation. The one who speaks in a tongue builds up himself, but the one who prophesies builds up the church. Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.

Posts a clearly and instructed that we should pursue love, and earnestly desire the spiritual gift, especially the gift of prophecy. Whatever happened to the gift of prophecy as Paul exhorted us in first Corinthian 14 in our churches today, I have no idea. Speaking in tongues is very controversial: but Paul said:

1 Corinthians 14:39–40 (ESV) 39 So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But all things should be done decently and in order.

Paul clearly instructed and exhorted us not to forbid speaking tongues and guess what? Because it is so controversial and so mystical most churches come apart from Pentecostal and charismatic churches have stopped speaking in this mystical language of God.

I will be expounding this fully in another book but suffice to say that speaking in tongues is so controversial because people do not understand it properly. And prophecy should be encouraged in church because it’s edifies the whole church the church. The main prophetic voice will be in the preaching from the pulpit I agree. And there should be prophecy in the proper way just like first Corinthians chapter 14.

31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

Classics/Personal Devotion by Rev John Mueller

This is a one-hour credit hour class on personal devotion which I took in Orlando and the lecturer gave up a ton of books to read which is highly edifying books on like

  • Thomas brooks precious remedies against Satan’s devices
  • Calvin, Little book on the Christian life
  • Thomas Kempis, The imitation of Christ
  • Jonathan Edwards, Heaven, world of love
  • Vos, Heavenly mindedness
  • Augustine, the confessions

You can see that we were assigned top reformed books on meditation and truly they are transformative and some of them are not easy to read a hugely profitable. One thing that really has helped me and I appreciate much through this entire MD course is the introduction to all the fantastic books that i should be reading and reach out to.

Preaching Lab I, II, Com I, II by Rev Larry Kirk

These are practical exegetical classes on expositional sermons and learning how to communicate that and it is wonderful to have real life practice in class format and being graded accordingly by professor. I really enjoyed this class and uh to to see various students in the expositional preaching and putting my own up there is very satisfying the common feedback for my preaching is the sense my passion but there are times that they do not feel it’s a kind of well organized. I do appreciate the feedback from professor and the students alike and I could see that with different feedback and I think we preach like 3 or 4 times over two or three weeks period time and it’s been wonderful. Professor Larry Kirk has been most pastoral and a very experienced preacher and pastor has been most helpful and encouraging to me and the rest.

Christianity and ethics

I also enjoyed this class very much basically taking the 10 commandments and extrapolated to our society today it was clearly engaging our society by the 10 commandments. I love the article I wrote all the paper I wrote on the reasons for complementarianism which is a huge deal for reformed world. I was very happy about that paper and I learned a lot from it and I think it is an important to clarify this is very important position.

Christian witness or engagement with Islam

That was the last class I took, a 2 credit hours class. A really interesting and in-depth study on the religion of Islam and how much Quran has really taken a lot of stuff from especially the Old Testament of our Bible like Abraham offered up his son Isaac became Abraham offered up his son Ishmael which is really shocking. They also used essentially the gospel of Barnabas an apocrypha book and included that that into Quran which is another shocking thing. Suffice to say that it is very illuminating to see the struggles of humanity longing for a God that truly revealed himself to us it’s really something we should pursue and I believe gospel in Jesus Christ is a solution for the depravity and downfall of humanity and we need it.

Conclusion

I highlighted the specific classes I enjoyed much and something that I can talk about but there are others a lot more 106 credit hours in fact I did 107 actually, there are also very good and enjoyable but these are the highlights. I pray that this should be a personal encouragement to many who seek to serve the Lord in the ministry of preaching and pastoral work that a reformed theology in the form of MDiv is definitely something I wholeheartedly recommend. May God bless you.

My cultural conditioning and cultural context in church planting

I come from a culture in church upbringing of charismatic evangelical church background, and later in involved in planting churches. From the childhood days, I grew up in a Methodist church background with my mom. I would say the charismatic worship in churches have impacted me a lot since university days.

My wife and I have sensed the call of God in planting church and pastoring. It has been a real joy and challenging in the midst of it.  It is without any shadow of doubt it is the Lord who directed our path as a family in doing rather radical things. We are from an international church planting movement, and we have planted churches back in Malaysia, and then God called us to come over here in the US to continue the ministry as a bi-vocational ministry , very much like what’s called tent-making ministry of Paul in the NT. We have seen churches successfully planted and pastored, however the latest one in Manhattan has stalled. So with that background, I have struggled to understand the culture here in New York, and also what I should be doing.  Saying all these we with our children had moved from Malaysian culture to Californian culture, and just over 10 years ago, to the New York culture, it has to be the Lord who strengthens us and been our hope.

In trying to reach out to New Yorkers, it really depends on which part of the city you live in. The city is notoriously expensive, and for any church planting, finance is of the utmost in one’s head immediately. From what I see, most church planters raise funds, forgo their own vocation professional jobs, and heavily depend on the more lucrative income from their wives., without which it is undoable for the cost of living.  I will list down some of the major cultural adjustment contextualization.

The Culture of Bi-Vocational Ministry

That’s my background and working as an engineer and doing weekend pastoring. Coming to do that in NYC, I can see why church planters flopped. First, it is such a vast city, the transportation commute just takes too long to do any ministry, and hence Keller in City to City has emphasized the need of cultural immersion, i.e. living in the neighborhood where you want to plant. And that’s also in full time capacity, and I see that that’s beyond my reach, just because we are not financially able to do that also considering the school factors for children. So we ended in Long Island to pastor a weekend church in Manhattan, it has been not the most effective. I struggled in this church plant model. I think if we live among the people neighborhood, even with just mainly a weekend ministry, it would have been much more doable. The cultural be with your people is so very important.

Theological & Philosophical Understanding & Equipping

This has been a real joy in worshipping the Lord in the house of God and sustained me a lot in facing setbacks, struggles with ministry, work, relationship etc. It’s the source of encouragement and strength in worshipping that I would never forget.  In the midst of struggling , I have to say the church planting culture that my church movement sent me, is not in line with the style in New York, because you need finance and group support for launching a church, which I have neither. So I was kind of parachuted into Manhattan, and living far away in Long Island, making that church plant incredibly challenging. That’s a huge cultural shock for me, although we had some college students who came and started our church together, but the theology and philosophy of church plant was largely absent from my mind in the American context.

But I would say the lack of theological understanding especially the sovereignty of God in reformed tradition and to be able to see and preach the redemptive narrative of God in Christ are the two most important transformations I received since coming to New York and having met Tim Keller whose sermons are full of these two. After listening to many of his sermon for years, I began to see why it’s so attractive and compelling for people to come to church.

First the divine sovereignty of God

This subject is not something I have ever heard or learnt from my cultural background. My background belongs to the Arminianism theology, with a passion to spread the love of God in Christ and making disciples. And pastors, almost all, do not have formal education training in seminary schools. It’s all about your calling and in trusting God, to plough the land for sowing the seed of the gospel and nurture a church.

Since coming to NYC, I heard enough of Keller’s sermons that I sensed that aspect of who God is missing with me. To see God as sovereign brings a lot of fresh air, comfort and edification to my heart, because I being to realize that, even in the time of failure (my church plant failed), and time of waiting, there is a sense of which, I can rest in Him, and wait for his timing and way to launch. That’s what calmed me down, given me rest in Him.  And that’s the divine providence of God out of his goodness and grace. This changed my outlook tremendously, about life, ministry, and families. It’s hard for people not to be hardened and discouraged at times when things are going tough, without the assurance of the sovereignty and divine providence of God. That’s why many blame God when they don’t get what they asked for after long time, without such understanding and hence trust in the almighty God and all wise God.

Second, the entire theological education

From my culture background, theology training is not held high, because its very practical driven theology, and  experiential type. As long as you love the Lord and serve him, you are good to go, regardless of whatever your theological trancing is. While heart condition is number one in all things with God, knowledge of theology is right there  number two, and without the word of God theology, a good heart can only operate on a far diminished form from the richness of the word of God which has great transformation power. I would say therefore this has brought tremendous blessing to my life. It’s also about that time, Tim Keller brought in RTS to New York city, and when I heard that, I was overjoyed and joined the 3rd cohort. It’s an incredible blessing that I could get my theological training in the fold of Tim Keller. I would say that’s really the divine providence of God, and looking back, that’s probably the best thing happened to my life for a long time. To me, that’s really a turning point tin my life and our ministry. And above all, my own relationship with the Lord has taken on a breath-taking wider horizon, simply because I now know Him much better.

Thirdly on the area of worship

I see that my background worship differs quite substantially from reformed worship which is generally the case with most professors and student in RTS, though there are some charismatics, and Baptists etc. I would say, this is a strange culture, and I do see the beauty of singing hymns, as theology is rich, and combining it with the more contemporary songs with hands lifting and expression of celebration is what I look for. Worship is a place of where we meet God corporately on Sundays, and this can be the most beautiful moment that can be and should be built upon. I do know the regulative worship in PCA, and certainly some charismatic worship songs tend to run too shallow theologically, and this is where I, after all my training in school, would be able to discern and adapt what’s best theologically, and worship tune wise. I think my desire and planning is to see a church that combines both styles of worship, Word based centered, and Spirit empowered.

Fourthly the New York culture is really a very busy hectic culture driven by work in an expensive city.

So for us to reach out to them, I love the most from what Keller teaches as in adaptation to the culture (seeing the common grace), and later the confrontation of their culture idols to meet their real needs. To bring in the redemptive messages to show them what they hope for can never be fulfilled by their normal ways unless they come to the God who created us. This is easy said than done, and requires a lot of relationship building etc. As all known too well, work is among the idols

I do see the possible opening of the gospel and that’s through the daily burdens of life.  There is value system in my background that’s totally different from the post Christian America today.  And to meet the New Yorkers, the personal touch of it doesn’t come easy, obviously a lot of community building is required, and this needs manpower and time.  

Fifth is the area of prayer

This is an incredibly important and powerful area form my church culture background. I see there is hardly any organized meetings for prayer. In our backgrounds, we hold prayer meeting once a week, and we poured our hearts to God together and believe God will do the rest. It’s a real uplifting times as we spend time together and humble ourselves before God. People see the hearts of leadership, and that goes a long way. I would love to gather folks together regularly for prayers. Prayer needs to be seen by people and so we can all ray together, instead of just listening to one person praying. The corporate prayers, or break into small groups prayers, has been. So conducive for church growth and touching the people outside.

Conclusion

In conclusion, I thank God for my upbringing culture. To be able to continue to develop the call of God and in the culture, God has put us in, is the most exciting thing and I look forward to what the Lord has for us coming up. I see the charismatic spiritual gift culture that I received will fit in very well, if operated like 1 Cor 13, coupled with good God centered expositional messages, I foresee a great future reaching the folks right in New York city or anywhere else.  The strength from my cultural background has propelled me and family gone that far with God in this land, however, it will take the next move of God to see the Spirit of God working .

Myth Becomes Fact: A critical analysis on God in the Dock by CS Lewis

Introduction

CS Lewis believed that myths, despite originating from various cultures and religions, often contain elements of truth and longing that resonate with humanities innate spiritual yearnings. He saw myth as a natural language through which deep root spiritual realities could be communicated. Lewis draws upon with the logical motif and narrative to illustrate and reinforce Christian concepts and themes. For example, in the Chronicles of Narnia, he uses the mythical realm of Chronicles of Narnia to explore fundamental Christian ideas such as redemption, sacrificial love, and the battle between good and evil. By weaving Christian themes into familiar mythic landscapes, Lewis invites readers to engage with profound truths in a captivating and relatable way.

Myth, Imagination & Supernatural & Aesthetic Experience

In that essay, Lewis analyzed two types of faith viz, the intellectual faith, and the religious or faith or trust in God which experiences the numinous (supernatural). He equates that the intellectual faith is the precondition for numinous faith. He calls it the feelings aroused by numinous is awe, very much like the awe of God in the OT.[1]

He finds the seed of religious experience in our experience of the numinous. In our age like our own such experience does occur and but, until religion comes and retrospectively transforms it, it usually appears to the subject to be a special form of aesthetic experience. [2]

By that he means if we don’t have religion in our life, what’s really the works of the transcendent God would simply be labelled as something beautiful without God. He argues that faith does not come from the experience of the philosophical arguments alone, numinous experience alone, but from historical events that transcends the moral category, which demand their presupposition the existence of God.

The Apologetic Value of Myth

CS Lewis writes, “Taking the point in particular the old myth of the dying God, without ceasing to be myth, comes down from the heaven of legend and imagination to the earth of history and happened on a particular date, particular place, and definable historical consequence. We passed from history to a historical person crucified by Pontius Pilot, so that myth became fact.” [3] 

All that’s like the transcendent God coming down to earth, is just to too good to be true, and yet it is really myth became fact. And if that happened, that will energize the whole base of humanity to move closer to knowing and experiencing transcendent God. It’s also part of the curiosity and inquisitiveness of human nature to be drawn with something fascinating, something beyond us.

I think the beauty and power of mythical thinking in apologetics is to open and provide a way for us to connect to the mysterious and mythical element of the transcendent God. Too often, case in point, Easter just becomes a commercial social celebration gathering with Easter bunnies etcetera because people lost touch with the mythical and the mysterious aspect of the dying God on the cross. We must communicate that to the unbelievers in the world so that they can appreciate Good Friday and Easter that it is not just a ceremonial process in the good old Christian customs but rather it is part of the greatest mystery and myth of Christianity that a God-Man was crucified in time and space. This is not only good for apologetics for non-believers but this is hugely beneficial and essential for Christian flourishing too.

Wonder & Delight because of the mythical radiance from God

We are also telling unbelievers and the Christians that if and when they choose to believe in Christ, they need to understand that it is not a mere assent to the intellectual story of Christ death on the cross, but it is essential to embrace the mythical and mysterious aspect of such crucifixion of a God man. To be convinced the supernatural that is that even possible naturally.

The mythical aspect of the gospel as Lewis puts it, “claims not only our love and our obedience but also our wonder and delight because of the mythical radiance resting on theology as God chooses to be mythopoeic and myth pathetic, therefore we want to respond in light manner.” [4]

And that is to respond not only with obedience and with love but also with the wonder and delight. So the apologetics to the non-believers and even believers is the aspect of wonder and delight in the God who speaks to us in such intensity and passion.

Christianity likened to modern English Monarch with the form, but the reality abandoned

CS Lewis writes on his friend, “ Corineus advanced that…Modern Christianity basically just believes a modern system of thought which retains the vocabulary of Christianity and exploits the emotions inherited from it while quietly dropping its essential doctrines. He compared modern Christianity with the modern English monarch, the forms of kingship have been retained, but the reality has been abandoned. [5]

This is conceivably the saddest that has happened and is happening in reality in our culture in our days today and for millennia. That’s because people adopted the tradition of Christianity the forms and the shapes and all this but abandoned the orthodoxy the essential doctrines. And this is all happening towards churches that have gone liberal jettisoned core doctrines of the holy scripture that in inerrant word of God. That becomes an inherent problem why many unbelievers are confused because they don’t see any real difference between the church and the world. 

Lewis’s friend is contending that why would educate it enlighten pseudo-Christians insist on expressing their deepest thoughts in items of the arcade mythology which must hamper and embarrass them at every turn? [6]

What he’s called is mythology are the so-called historical essential doctrines of the church from the Bible come if you call them as such, you have not read the bible. And these Christians they are absolutely precious and the fundamental core of the entire Christianity let alone cutting them off. I take it that people feel the historical essential doctrines of the Bible are outdated somehow and they want to jump on the modern or postmodernism bandwagon, but that’s exactly and Antichrist book as described in the Bible.

The scariest thing and upsetting thing is what CS Lewis called the “clergyman becoming intellectual prostitutes or preach for pay”- and thereby created what he called as the darkening of conscience among thousands of men. [7]

The biggest problem what I see from the here is that the misconception of the modernity calling historical orthodoxy doctrines of the word of God as myths. I get that more souls removed from the historical orthodoxy in church and with the postmodernism and modernism pounding on our philosophy and the culture on a daily basis, it won’t be hard to imagine that there is a disdain from the culture towards anything historical orthodoxy push appears to be binding to them. So Lewis sort of rides along with them taking on what they call as myth and expound what is really important on ‘myths’, those doctrines.

To combat that criticism of Christianity holding on to the old historical doctrines, Lewis warned of dropping to a darkening of conscience of men and women who don’t know real Christianity anymore.

He, therefore, in a very radical way, creatively asked the question, “If they want to cut off from this what is called vestigial mythology, would not be would it be,  “Much easier for the mother of invalid child if she put it into an institution and adopt someone else healthy baby instead. Life would be far easier to many a man if he abandoned the woman he has actually fall in love with and marry someone else because she’s more suitable.[8]

So if the nonbelieving world think that our Christian orthodoxy doctrines are like myth, Lewis argues, “Even assuming (which I almost certainly deny) the doctrines of historic Christianity are nearly mythical, it is the myth which is the vital and nourishing element in the whole concern. ” So Lewis arguing that his friend once us to move with the times, very much like today. society wants us to move with the time and not wanting to stay with historical orthodoxy of Bible. Lewis right the time actually move away. But in religion, we find something that does not move away. It is the myth that abide, it is what he caused the modern and living thought that moves away. I think that is absolutely correct to say that I will modern thoughts and modernity and philosophy keeps moving and changing and moving. The only thing that is absolute is the historical orthodoxy word of God. For example he quoted the pagan revival of Julian apostate, the Nix, the monism of Aus, the deem of, the dogmatic materialism of the great vans. They have all moved with the times. And the thing that were all attacking remains. The myth has outlived the thoughts of all its defenders and all its adversaries. It is the myth that gives life. This apologetics is powerful because Lewis is arguing that the very thing that modernity all the idioms and religions they have been attacking Christianity orthodoxy scripture all moving, they all moved along with times. In other words, position on religion and believe kit, moving there is no certainty or concreteness about it. In comparison, it is the religion, so-called myth of the historical orthodox doctrines they stay and never change very much like the Lord God never changes. The meet is outlived of thoughts of its defenders and all its adversaries. It’s the myth that gives life.

Lewis talked about we are not knowing the abstract meaning at all, but tasting it. But We were testing turns out to be universal principal. The moment we state this principle, we are admittedly back in the world of abstraction. It is only wow receiving the myth as a story that you experience the principal concrete.


So he is saying that the idea of me as an abstraction as an abstraction, and it is only when we take the myth as a story that we can experience the principal concrete. Another words, the so-called myth of Christianity must be received as a story so that we can experience the principle of the story concrete.

He wrote that myth consents thought, incarnation transcend Smith. The heart of Christianity is a myth, which is also a fact. The all myth of the dying guard without seizing to be miss, comes down from the heaven of legend and imagination to the Earth of histories. It happens – at a particular date, in a particular place, forward by definable historical consequences. We passed from Boulder, die. Nobody knows when away, to a historical person, crucified, and punished by pilot. By becoming fact, it does not seize to be a myth, that’s the miracle.


So Lewis is arguing that the heart of Christianity is a myth which is also a fact. I would agree that truly Christianity is a myth because to have the God of the universe Hung on the cross and bleeding 2000 years ago for redemption of mankind, does sound very much like a myth to many, who have not believed in the gospel. I love that. He said the myth of the dying guard on the cross does not seize to be myth, and it comes down from the heaven of legend and imagination to the Earth of history. I definitely agree that it is a mess because, Jesus, came down from heaven of legend and imagination to the Earth of history. He actually happens a particular time and place and a date. To combine as a fact for the crucifixion of the dying guard on the cross is a powerful testimony of the incarnation of God and the suffering of Christ for humanity. Luis calls the crucifixion national seize to be made: that is the miracle. I hundred percent agree that the myth is the miracle.


Lewis wrote that he suspects men have sometimes derived more spiritual sustenance from myths. They do not believe then from the religion, the profession. There is so much truth in it and shame on many, who profess some kind of believe in Christ in the religion of Christianity have been changed in transformed in the lives because there is no personal conviction. It is what is called the Christianity or Christian by name or cultural Christian. It is fascinating for him to write that, actually more spiritual sustenance for Smith, and I think that is relatable because myth is fascinating supernatural thing of people that you don’t even know whether it’s true or not but certainly it sounds pretty profound. So Luis wrote that to be truly sent to historical fact of the dying on the cross, and also receive the, with the same imagination, imaginative embrace which we accord to all myths. For myth and fact merges on the cross.

Myth: a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

The definition of myth. It’s a story of. The early history of people that involves supernatural beings. This is a really important take because. The whole of redemptive narrative of God in Christ Jesus is supernatural and therefore in the eyes of the world, in many ways, it’s a myth. Just to clarify myth has been sort of misconceived commonly that it is something that is not true, but the definition of myth is something supernatural which can be true or. Not true. So when Louise talks about the dying God on the cross does not cease to be myth, comes down from the heaven of legend and imagination to the earth of history, is a profound statement. He’s able to connect something that is most profound in the world which is the death of the transcendent God on the cross and that is definitely supernatural because the death of God is impossible but that is the death of a human in Christ Jesus who is both God and man. Baloise brilliantly connects the myth nature crucifixion of Christ on the cross 2 an actual event in space and time in history. He’s contrasting the myth legend of boulder die nobody knows when or where, to a historical person crucified under Pontius pilot. That myth became fact on the cross. However that myth does not cease to be myth and that is the miracle. The word miracle is the exact word needed to describe the event because of what happened on the cross it’s nothing less than miraculous and definitely myth became fact. The problem with the very materially wired world today is not able to see the myth the mythical aspect of the cross, but merely seeing the human dying on the cross. Besides frankly even many who believed Christ died on the cross for humans sins and received Christ as believers, have no head much lively spirit spirituality in this earthly world. Louis rightly said a man who disbelieved the Christian story is fact but continually fed on it as Smith would come up perhaps, be more spiritually alive than one who ascended and did not think much about it. The key problem is those Christians or supposedly born again Christians who believed the story of crucifixion but didn’t think much about it, has not brought much transformation to their lives. On the other hand, however, those who did not believe in the Christian crucifixion as fact but just believed it as a myth, Lewis argued, are perhaps more spiritually alive. There’s a real danger of just assent to it as intellectual knowledge but without absorbing and soaking in the mythical aspect of the Christian narrative redemption story.

I would argue that the word myth in in the Christ redemption narrative story it’s really equivalent to supernatural or miracle. It is indeed without a shadow of doubt Christianity without supernatural is a human story devoid of the divinity, taking the two most potent events in Christianity which is the incarnation of God into this world Christmas, and the son of God offered as a sacrifice to redeem mankind on the cross. Both prominent events are profoundly supernatural and hence mythical. So for us to communicate this to the non believers, we have to convey the mythical aspect of the entire redemption story.

Lewis writes, we must not be ashamed of the mythical radiance resting in our theology. We must not be nervous about parallels and pagan idols: they ought to be there dash you’d be a stumbling block if they weren’t. We must not, enforce spirituality, withhold our imagination welcome. If God chooses to be a mythopoeic dash and is not the sky itself a myth dash shall we refuse to be Mr. pathic? For this is the marriage of heaven and earth: perfect myth and perfect fact: claiming not only our love and our obedience, but also I will wonder and delight, address to the savage, the child, and the poet in each one of us no less than to the moralist, the scholar, and the philosopher.

I would agree that God has revealed himself in a very mythical manner or what he called his mythopoeic call mom by us examining the incarnation and crucifixion and resurrection. And the fact that Christianity is so mythical and supernatural, louis is right to say that we must not withhold our imaginative welcome. If God chooses to be mythopoeic and is not the sky itself a myth, shall we refuse to myopathic? So he’s right that we are only paint attention to myth or call myopathic because God chooses to be mythopoeic, by even just looking at the sky itself it’s a mystery and myth, the entire creation of the world it’s in such amazingly profound complexity that beyond any human engineering imagination. Therefore it is actually a myth that became fact. For anyone to approach Christianity without touching the supernatural or the myth it’s not can you to know the real faith and religion in Christ Jesus the transcendent God who created the world.

I love the fact that Lewis brought in the sense of imagination to cross the bridge from what is natural in the material world to the supernatural world which he calls it as myth. I would only critique do is in the sense that he did not bring the word supernatural in his apologetics discourse, although he’s alluding to it big time through the word myth. The entire Bible is a myth in a sense because it is totally supernatural starting from Genesis all the way to Revelations. We can’t even pass the first chapter of Genesis without believing in and acknowledging the supernatural work and power of God as he called out the different creation and speak them into being and create them actually ex-Nihilo. In other words he created everything out of nothing. That is supernatural and therefore isn’t that a myth?

I would argue that bringing mythical imagination into the apologetics of believing in Christ the Son of God the savior of the world, we will enrich and still with the mind of the folks whether they believe in Christ or not. For Christians it will be a challenge and stirring of hearts and challenging them to stretch themselves into the supernatural by faith. There are plenty of Christians today who do not quite believe in the supernatural and the whole aspect of faith has not really been exercised or taught much. So this paper is to help the unbelievers to cross the bridge from the natural to the supernatural. Lewis said that a mere intellectual assent to the doctrine of Christ crucifixion and resurrection will not sufficiently build a complete born again story.

I think it is particularly powerful when Lewis described that the heart of Christianity is a myth which is also a fact referring specifically to the old myth of the dying God without ceasing to be myth, comes down from heaven of legend and imagination to the earth of history. It happens at a particular date, particular place ,followed by definable historical consequences. We pass from time, nobody knows when or where, to a historical person crucified under Pontius pilot. To me this is particularly powerful when Lewis described the entire incarnation of the Son of God from the heaven, the legend, in imagination to the earth of history is a supreme myth and that is nothing short of the miracle. And also to see a God the dying God on the cross is another supreme myth that became miracle. The power of myth is so powerful that it transcends even a pure intellectual assent to a religion people professed. Like he said man have sometimes derive more spiritual sustenance from myths they did not believe then from the religion they professed.

That shows how much power is contained in the very sustenance of myth even though they don’t really believe in it, because the very myth contains so much supernaturally charged mystery and power that overwhelms the mere intellectual assent to a religion. And that to me is very powerful in apologetics in driving people to search for the supernatural and not being content with the natural full of intellectual discussion and apologetics. That’s why I believe that intellectual apologetics does not cut it, although I believe the transcendental approach of apologetics by Vantil is in the route of supernatural or myth and that’s why it cuts it as well.

Lewis writes, “It is not reason that is taking away my faith: on the contrary, my faith is based on reason. It is my imagination and emotions. The battle is between faith and reason on one side and emotion and imagination on the other”.[9]

Lewis writes, “I start thinking I am going to choke, and I am afraid they will start cutting me up before I am properly under. In other words, I lose my faith in anesthetics. It is not reason that is taking away my faith: on the contrary, my faith is based on reason. It is my imagination and emotions. The battle is between faith and reason on one side and emotion and imagination on the other.[10]

Lewis writes, “Christians need to be reminded that what became fact was a myth, that it carries with it into the world of fact all the properties of a myth. God is more than a god, not less; Christ is more than Balder, not less. We must not be ashamed of the mythical radiance resting on our theology. We must not, in false spirituality, withhold our imaginative welcome. If God chooses to be mythopoeic- and it’s not the sky itself a myth- shall we refuse to be myopathic? For this is the marriage of heaven and earth; Perfect myth and perfect fact; Claiming not only our love and our obedience, but also our wonder in delight, addressed to the savage, the child, and the poet in each one of us no less than to the moralist, the scholar, and the philosopher”.

-I think Lewis just made Christianity so much more alive and personal, something not only to be obeyed and followed in obedience, and with love, but indeed with wonder and delight. That’s a huge contribution to humanity understanding of Christianity because no one, even though rejecting Christianity or just being ignorant, will reject delight and wonder in a religion. To deprive Christianity of wonder and delight is to make the God of miracles and love and passion into a stoic idle that doesn’t speak or move.

The Myth of Incarnation, Predestination & Election

“The central miracle asserted by Christians is the Incarnation. They say that God became Man. Every other miracle prepares for this, or exhibits this, or results from this.” – C.S. Lewis, Miracles, 173.

Lewis calls Incarnation as the “Grand Miracle”. All the miracles in OT prepare for the Grand miracle—Incarnation. Incarnation of God into a human is mind blowing to any sane educated folks, unless you reach into the dimension of faith. There is no way for anyone to understand and hence believe that without being supernaturally touched by the Spirit of God, and what’s called regeneration of our soul/spirit by the Spirit. And that’s why it’s the biggest stumbling block to the Jews, and foolishness to the Greeks who seek wisdom (1 Cor 1:22-25). It is something humanly impossible and outrageously scandalous in the minds of all civilizations, and that’s why Jesus took the Roman world, the Jewish nation by storm, when he finally resurrected from death. It is such outlandishly extravagant that, God precisely demonstrated his love and grace beyond even the best poets can conjure up a love story of such magnitude and power. That’s all in the eyes of many unbelievers a myth. And if we can tap into it, and explain with conviction, it will be apologetically powerful. Not only that, when one gets into, he deep reflection of such act of God, there is nothing but just sheer deepening of our souls, and understanding and affection for Christ. And that’s transformative.

God chose Israel not because of something in Israel (Deut 7:6–8), but He refers to his promise to Israel’s ancestor, Abraham. So, we have to go to Abraham:

Genesis 12:1–2  Now the Lord said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing.

 Why did God choose Abraham? It’s a mystery, and myth. Because no one really understands. I concur what Dr Hoffecker said that God sees something in a man’s heart that we don’t. Like God told Samuel that man looks at the outside, but God looks at the inside. (1 Sam 16:7).

Therefore things that we don’t know, and hence tend to speculate, best left to the transcendent God who knows it all even before the foundation of the earth (Eph 1:4), He has destined us to before saved. Paul wrote that he was chosen and called by the Lord even before he was born (Gal 1:15-17).

So, all these to speak of the mystery of God and an important verse to explain this all is:

Deuteronomy 29:29 (ESV)

29 “The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may do all the words of this law.

We must settle in not knowing and understanding the predestination which is. Major pillar doctrine of Christianity, and that belongs to the category of mystery, and in the sight of artists, unbelievers, they become myth. So, there is enormous untapped power and potential in the mythical thinking and projection like Lewis has so elegantly and powerfully captured them. Of course, there are also many ungodly myths from of old, but that doesn’t cancel the good myths that Christian can take hold of, and develop them to enrich our own spiritual life and also connect with the non-believers mind set apologetically.

Conclusion

I think the apologetic value of myth is tremendous as per CS Lewis, taking the point in particular the old myth of the dying God, without ceasing to be myth, comes down from the heaven of legend and imagination to the earth of history and happened on a particular date, particular place, and definable historical consequence. We passed from history to a historical person crucified by Pontius Pilot, so that myth became fact. All that like the transcendent God coming down to earth, is just to too good to be true, and yet it is really myth became fact. And if that happened, that would energize the whole base of humanity to move closer to knowing and experiencing transcendent God. It’s also part of the curiosity and inquisitiveness of human nature to be drawn with something fascinating, something beyond us.

I think the beauty and power of mythical thinking in apologetics is to open and provide a way for us to connect to the mysterious and mythical element of the transcendent God. Too often, case in point, Easter just becomes a commercial social celebration gathering with Easter bunnies etcetera because people lost touch with the mythical and the mysterious aspect of the dying God on the cross. We must communicate that to the unbelievers in the world so that they can appreciate Good Friday and Easter that it is not just a ceremonial process in the good old Christian customs but rather it is part of the greatest mystery and myth of Christianity that a God man was crucified in time and space. This is not only good for apologetics for non-believers, but this is hugely beneficial and essential for Christian flourishing too.

We are also telling unbelievers and the Christians that if and when they choose to believe in Christ, they need to understand that it is not a mere assent to the intellectual story of Christ death on the cross, but it is essential to embrace the mythical and mysterious aspect of such crucifixion of a God man. To be convinced the supernatural that is that even possible naturally.

The mythical aspect of the gospel as Lewis puts it, claims not only our love and our obedience but also our wonder and delight because of the mythical radiance resting on theology as God chooses to be mythopoeic and myth pathetic, therefore we want to respond in light manner. And that is to respond not only with obedience and with love but also with the wonder and delight. So, the apologetics to the non-believers and even believers is the aspect of wonder and delight in the God who speaks to us in such intensity and passion.


[1] CS Lewis, Is Theism Important? –God in the Dock, ( Zondervan:     ) 187

[2] Ibid, 187

[3] CS Lewis, God in the Dock (Zondervan:    )

[4] Ibid

[5] CS Lewis, God in the Dock, (Wm. B. Eerdmans: Grand Rapids) 54

[6] Ibid, 54

[7] Ibid, 54

[8] Ibid, 55

[9] CS Lewis, Mere Christianity, (Harper Collins: New York, 2001) 138

[10] Ibid, 140

Transformationist model engagement with Culture

I agree with what Keller talked about what transformation excited is not  building up the church but penetrating the bastions of cultural influence for Christ. I can see that like what Keller said that, much of the excitement & creative energy ends up focusing on cosmic or social redemption rather than bringing about personal conversion through evangelism and discipleship. And I can also see what his quoted James K Smith who insisted the liturgy and practices of church communities are critical for the formation of worldview. I would say just as Keller said, pietism tended to lift up full time ministry and denigrates secular vocations, transformations can lead to the opposite extreme, I think we should not drop the transformationist model just because their tendency is on the outside of church redemption rather than inside, because I think if we could do both, it will be fantastic. Pietism mode of building up the internal church through conversion, the evangelism, discipleship should be a given for any church, however the transformationist model for the outside of the church redemption is rare.

I agree that transformationist has the potential danger of being triumphalist  for self-righteous and overconfident ,it’s ability both to understand God’s will for society and to bring it about. I think essentially this due to conservative biblical evangelical upbringing seeing what should be happening in the society from the word of God. The reality is the world outside the church is not the same as the church per se, and it will be impractical, totally unrealistic to impose of such changes on the society i.e. culture outside the church.

I also agree transformationism has often put too much stock in politics as a way to change culture. He quoted  James Hunter saying government politics is only a set that is downstream from the true sources of cultural change which happens in the Academy, the arts, the media companies, and the cities. The real influence happens in teaching schools, publishing books producing, plays movies, slowly the public opinions begins to shift. I somewhat agreed to this however if we were to follow strictly this route, and not following the transformationist route, we would have another million babies aborted if it were not for the changes that was brought about by political Presidential change in the White House and consequently in the Supreme Court justices. As much as it is highly controversial and difficult to bring about political change, I will stand by the transformationisms approach bringing up about changes in the politics i.e. by prayers, evangelism, and preaching the word of God.

I agree one of the weak points of transformationism is the apparent absence on the concern for the poor which is really a big agenda in the mind of God as we read from the scriptures. Keller talks about coerciveness from the transformationist, it would be hard to see that happening anytime soon in America, and I do not see that as a concern. On the contrary, for right now the woke is on top of her, canceling anyone who wants to speak of conservative voice case in point including the church.

“The heart of Christianity is a myth which is also a fact.”

Lewis writes, “Myth transcends thought, incarnation transcends myth. The heart of Christianity is a myth which is also a fact. The old myth of the dying God, without ceasing to be myth, comes down from the heaven of legend and imagination to the earth of history. It happens- at a particular date, in a particular place, followed by a definable historical consequence. We passed from history to our historical person crucified under Pontius Pilot. By becoming fact, it does not cease to be myth; That’s a miracle. I suspect the men have sometimes derived more spiritual sustenance from myths they did not believe then from the religion they’re professed”. That’s a huge insight to the call not to stop at Easter resurrection, but truly dwell on the mystery of a resurrected Christ bodily, I see Lewis’s exhortation of dwelling in the myth of Christ must be grasped by Christians today to be able to truly walking in the Spirit.

Lewis writes, “ A man who disbelieved the Christian story is fact but continually fed on it as myth would, perhaps, be more spiritually alive than one who assented” and did not think much about it”. There is so much truth to that because there are many people who just intellectually assented to the story of salvation and even believed in it but did not think much about it and which means it never changes their lives much at all. Compared to a person who disbelieve the Christian story but believe in the myth that came with it is, definitely potentially more spiritually alive person in a spiritual sense.

Lewis rightly says that those who do not know this great myth became fact when the virgin conceived or, indeed, to be pitied. I think America today is awash with people who don’t believe in the myth of Christianity but merely assented to it intellectually on a superficial level and that’s why we have this Easter bunnies overwhelming the resurrection of Christ. To the point that even White House refused any religious themes to Easter celebration this year.

Lewis writes, “Christians need to be reminded that what became fact was a myth, that it carries with it into the world of fact all the properties of a myth. God is more than a god, not less; Christ is more than Balder, not less. We must not be ashamed of the mythical radiance resting on our theology. We must not, in false spirituality, withhold our imaginative welcome. If God chooses to be mythopoeic- and it’s not the sky itself a myth- shall we refuse to be myopathic? For this is the marriage of heaven and earth; Perfect myth and perfect fact; Claiming not only our love and our obedience, but also our wonder in delight, addressed to the savage, the child, and the poet in each one of us no less than to the moralist, the scholar, and the philosopher”.—I think Lewis just make Christianity so much more alive and personal, something not only to be obeyed and followed in obedience, and with love, but indeed with wonder and delight. That’s a huge contribution to humanity understanding of Christianity because no one, even though rejecting Christianity or just being ignorant, will reject delight and wonder in a religion. To deprive Christianity of wonder and delight is to make the God of miracles and love and passion into a stoic idle that doesn’t speak or move.

(Lewis, God in Dock, “Myth Became Fact.”)